New podcast · Season 1 coming 2026

The people actually
building tomorrow.

Ken Hertz and whurley sit down with the brilliant minds behind paradigm-shifting technologies — bypassing the billionaires, the PR-coached CEOs, and the famous talking heads.

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S01 · E001 · Trailer
Welcome to Indistinguishable
01:42 / 04:201.0×
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
— Arthur C. Clarke · Third Law · 1962
The Hosts

Two people, one long conversation.

Portrait of Ken Hertz
The storyteller & dealmaker

Ken Hertz

Entertainment lawyer and venture investor, senior partner at Hertz Lichtenstein Young & Polk. A master negotiator’s sharp inquiry, an investor’s eye, a storyteller’s instinct.

Partner · HLY&PInvestorEntertainment
Portrait of whurley
Serial entrepreneur & tech pioneer

whurley

Serial entrepreneur, Eisenhower Fellow, Master Inventor. Founder of Chaotic Moon, Honest Dollar, and Strangeworks. Author of Quantum Computing for Babies.

Founder · StrangeworksEisenhower FellowMaster Inventor
Episodes

The record, so far.

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001
TBA · 2026
Pilot — a guest we can't name yet
Incoming
002
TBA · 2026
On the physics of useful machines
Queued
003
TBA · 2026
The quiet people behind the loud products
Queued
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